Did We Really Land on the Moon? Apollo, Artemis II & the Wildest Space Facts You Never Learned in School

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Welcome, welcome, welcome to Tomfoolery and Hullabaloo, the show where we like to take the universe's biggest topics and somehow make them even bigger.

Well, we have to over exaggerate them.

I mean, that's just what we do.

Right.

Well, today we're shooting for the moon, Literally.

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In fact, as we record this, 4 human beings are on their way to orbit the moon for the first time in over 50 years.

We've got questions for Scott debate list, news from the Cosmic Desks, and enough space to fill a rocket.

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Did you watch the live stream with them last night or this morning?

Whenever it was.

I did not.

Oh, it was.

It's pretty cool.

If that it is.

One of the one of the guys was in there and he's like, this is so exciting.

I wish I could have gotten here faster.

I feel like a little kid up here, which is I feel like what I would say if I was in space for the first time.

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Absolutely.

What's crazy is to have a 50 year drought of this.

So there's generations of astronauts never got to fulfill this dream.

But there was, there was a group of astronauts probably born out of that 60s space program that had dreams of going to the moon in the 80s and 90s and we never went.

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And now they're probably just advising on this one.

So buckle up, pressurize your suits, and let's launch this thing.

It's going to be 1 giant leap of an episode.

Oh man, that's pretty exciting.

I yeah, I'm I'm pretty happy for this one.

Let's get after.

Well, I want to talk first about kind of my introduction to space, maybe at most people, introductions.

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Introduction to space is just the great space movies that have been made.

Yeah.

And Apollo 13 came out when I was a young kid, like probably 3rd, 4th, 5th grade.

No way is it that old.

Yeah, it wasn't.

It was an early 90s movie.

Oh yeah, I guess I was a teenager so.

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You were a teenager.

I was a little baby.

Yeah.

And so Apollo 13 with Tom Hanks was the incredible story of a mission that was supposed to land on the moon.

And then everything goes wrong.

But everything went wrong and obviously Apollo 13, this was the 13th attempt at an orbit or a landing of the moon, and they thought they had all the kings worked out.

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Yeah, well, Apollo 11 is the first one that reached the moon, reached the moon.

And so this was 2 after that.

And Tom Hanks wasn't actually in it.

He's in the movie.

Oh, I was.

But not in the real Apollo 13.

He was a little boy, yeah, not an astronaut.

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That's right.

That's right.

But I love that movie, and I love the scene where they fix the problem.

I'm a problem solver by nature, and that scene always had me so excited.

Like, here's everything on the ship.

Fix their oxygen.

Problem when it's such a it's such a great just movie about humanity because it doesn't it doesn't just focus on the team that's in space.

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It also focus on the team that's on on the ground and what they're going through trying to help them problem solve.

It also shows the families.

It does, it puts humanity in it, and I don't know if y'all can see this if you're watching NASA official visitor badge boy.

I can't see it.

My husband's cousin, first cousin and his wife both worked for NASA out of college. 1 was an engineer from the University of Texas, One was University, Texas A&M University engineer.

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They go to NASA with their space engineering degrees and meet, fall in love, get married later on.

And so we did a behind the scenes backstage.

Yeah, that's pretty cool of NASA.

I've never been, but I'm super jealous that you guys got to do.

That yeah.

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Shout out to cousins, Cindy and Steve.

We had a great time.

It was really cool.

And so in that vein, one of my other favorite books, turn Space movies, is Hidden Figures.

Are you familiar with this one?

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.

About the mathematician, the women female black mathematicians that did most of the math in the 50s and 60s to help land us on the moon.

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Right.

Fabulous story, fabulous book.

Octavia Spencer, Taraji P Henderson.

But.

Doesn't Octavia Spencer win the she won an Oscar for.

Her, I don't know if she won the Oscar, but she was nominated.

Yeah.

But this film got tons of accolades.

It was nominated for Best Picture, Academy Award for Best Picture.

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It's a such a a good story and you know, it's not just about the people who are behind the scenes not getting the actual credit that they're due, you know, right.

It's like the quarterback always getting success for the football team, winning, but he's just one player in, you know?

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And John Glenn is the main astronaut in that movie, which there's some liberty with the movie that's not in the book, obviously.

And I think the, the, the story in indulge that a little bit, but he did ask one of these black women to verify an IBM computer's math before he got in the he said, no, no, no, she needs to do the math, make sure she knows the math is right.

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I don't trust the computer, but I trust her.

And that was real.

And that was now in the movie, she had hours to do it.

But in the real life, he gave her day like days before.

He was like, so I hear we're using computers now, but I want you to do the math on this.

The the juxtaposition of that concept, like I'm going to trust this person to do the math over a computer.

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Where is, you know, in 2026, we the other way, we completely do it the other way around.

Absolutely.

And and Glenn Powell, I think is John Glenn in that movie and.

And Kevin Costner is in it too.

I think he plays think You're right one of the.

Space dudes, space control, Mission Control dudes, Yeah, but that's a great 1 and I really loved it.

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The other one is we just recently read the book and then saw the movie The Project Hell Mayor.

Yeah, such a good movie.

Guys, the movie is incredible.

The book I read with the kids we had to scratch out a few bad words, but the movie I didn't see any issue.

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No, I had a 10 and a 13 year old in theater and it was amazing.

I also had a 13 year old in the theater sitting right next to your kids and it's the first movie in a long time that I wasn't worried about anything.

It was just a good storytelling.

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Really energized Jack.

He is tearing through the book.

He absolutely loves it and it is good.

Good family fun.

Family fun, heartfelt movie.

It's hard to believe that such good heart could come from one dude trapped in space.

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I'm not going to talk much more about it, but it's.

Highly recommended.

Yeah, Project Hail Mary highly recommends.

Ryan Gosling.

Yeah, I've I've enjoyed his acting over time.

Some things are better than other things.

This is his best performance.

I've ever seen SO.

Good.

And in the words of Rocky, amaze, amaze, amaze.

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Amaze statement.

So another one.

It's also the The book Project Hail Mary is written by Andy Weir and another book that he wrote is called The Martian and there's a movie with Matt Damon and I also really like that movie and the book as well.

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I think the book is a lot closer to the movie in this case than Project Hale Mary is, but not that they change much in the book to the movie Project Hale Mary, but a guy gets trapped on Mars in the book The Martian and he has to science his way home and it's just so good.

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And Andy Weir, I don't know you, but you do science very well, right?

And that's what I love about his stuff is the math checks out, the physics.

And so as someone who took a lot of math and science courses and now have young kids, I love them being able to hear these things and start asking questions about physics.

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So the the theory of relativity came up in the book and I had to explain to the boys why time moves differently when you're travelling through space. 11 years on Earth was only four years for me, yeah.

It's incredible.

It's really fun to talk through all that.

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So what I like about his his books too, is that he doesn't make the math unattainable or like boring.

It actually is part of the story, and it kind of makes it exciting, which for somebody who struggled with math in high school and middle school, like having math be exciting is a rare thing.

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So, I mean, the guy's a very talented writer and, you know, just blessed to see that they're making those good books and two good movies.

Agreed.

And making them good movies because there's good books that turn into not good movies.

That's right.

And these were great.

And then finally, and this one I'm going to tee up, but then we can talk about it more in the hullabaloo debate.

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There's a movie called Fly Me to the Moon starring Channing Tatum.

And Scarlett.

Johansson and Scarlett Johansson.

And it's set concurrently to the Apollo 11 mission.

And we had to win the space race.

That was paramount for our program, for our national security.

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So we believed as Americans.

And they were worried that if we didn't land the math and make this happen, they were going to stage the moon landing in video so that we could just on paper say we we won this race.

Spoiler alert for the movie.

They didn't have.

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To use the footage, but it was a really fun movie and I enjoyed it as well.

But we'll tee that one up for later.

OK, rapid fire question rapid.

Fire.

Here we go, Scott.

I'm asking the questions, OK, you've just set foot on the moon.

You are the first human to stand there in 50 years.

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What are the first words out of your mouth?

I would love to say that I would be as eloquent as one giant leap for man, one giant leap for.

One small step.

For man, giant leap.

For mankind.

See, I can't even do it eloquently now.

Yeah.

Never mind ask me the question, but I.

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Think what I would do is I would just kind of have a freak out moment like on the.

I would be like, I can't believe I'm on the.

Moon Amazed.

Amazed.

And I would start like hopping up and down and like guys, gravity is amazing.

You'd hop up, but would you'd come down like 10 minutes later, it would be it'd be really awkward.

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Yeah, I I think I would revert back to just childhood.

I don't think that I would unless somebody had like written out like this should be the thing that you should say.

I think I would just instinctually just celebrate that do.

You think Neil Armstrong, like I haven't done any research into that.

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If he thought about what he was gonna, I mean, I know he's a super smart dude, so he probably came up with that on the fly.

I.

Did hear that, the Neil Armstrong thing, that's not exactly what he said, but there was a like a static in between it.

And so that's what people think he said, but he actually said something different.

But I do think he probably wrote it out.

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Wrote it out.

He thought, what?

Yeah.

What if I was stepping on the moon?

I figured you were gonna give me like a, a just a Star Wars quote, like I am your father because you're in space for the first time.

No, I I don't think that the sci-fi person in me would come out.

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I think that.

The American hero would.

The the kindergartener.

The whole game.

The kindergartener.

And I would just start having a good time.

I'd get up there and be like America, Yeah, we're back.

Bye bye.

I would say something probably that would embarrass Kristen.

She'd be sitting there watching the television with all of her family and friends, and she'd be like, I cannot.

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Wait for this, wait for this.

He has a podcast.

He's very good with words.

He's.

Going to be so good and then.

Somebody crack open a bear.

We're on the moon.

If you could leave one personal item on the moon, like a time capsule object for future explorers or even aliens to discover, what would it be and why?

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I think it was John Glenn that this, or maybe it was Buzz Aldrin.

One of the guys took a family photo with him and left it on the moon.

And I love that Scott was here or whatever, but just memorializing, like the humanity of it.

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Like the most important thing to me is my faith and my family.

And then to be able to combine that.

So maybe like a Bible with a family picture inside and leave it up there for somebody to find.

Yeah.

You are floating above the earth on your way to the moon and you get 1 phone call home.

Who do you call first?

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I mean, I call Kristen.

This is awkward.

She's right.

Yeah, you have.

You have to say that.

Obviously it's Kristen, but yeah, that's 100%.

That's the only person that I would want to be talking to.

I'd call my kids.

My husband's a man of very few words.

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I feel like it would be a waste of a collect call to earth.

So what he'd be like, Is that all?

I'm in the yard.

Yeah, well, OK.

No, I would call Kristen and hope that my kids were around when I was on the phone call.

But yeah, I mean, that's who I would want to celebrate with being up there, but it would also be the one that I missed the most.

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So here's the deal urging me to come back.

I get one phone call.

I can call anybody on earth think I'm calling Brad Pitt.

Hey, Brad.

Hey, Brad.

I mean, I talked to my husband for 1520 years by this point.

Well, maybe I've never spoken to Brad.

The one time you get the opportunity to call the president.

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Or yeah, yeah, exactly.

Brad Pitt, I guess.

Yeah.

Tom Cruise.

I love it.

I beat you to space, Tom.

Sucka, you just play these astronauts.

NASA says you can bring one non essential personal item on the mission no bigger than a shoe box.

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What is going in the box?

Non essential item.

What's going in the box?

My Bible.

Peanut butter and Jelly.

Picture of my family.

I think I said all those things.

OK, when before we started this episode, Kristen said be funny and you haven't been funny yet.

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Once.

Fine, I would bring.

I would bring my vintage Chuck Taylor so that.

You could put jewels in the box.

So when I got to the moon to make that first step, I put my Chucks on 1st so that that my first footstep would be that Chuck Taylor footprint.

So Vincent Glover, who is on the Artemis 2 right now, is bringing a Bible, his wedding rings and family heirlooms.

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So won't won't you think you think like an astronaut?

Yeah, man.

See how?

I bring Bingo but he doesn't fit in a shoebox.

It's a big corgi.

Yeah, would not be taking Jules up there with me.

She would fit in it.

She would fit in a.

Shoebox.

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She could have a paw print on the moon.

She could be the second dog in space.

First dog on the moon.

Yeah, first dog on the moon.

You just orbited the moon and you're heading home.

You have to write one sentence on a postcard back to Earth that every single person on the planet will read.

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What does it say?

I have no idea.

Like, see you soon.

Yeah, be right back, BRBBRB.

It was not what I was expecting.

Yeah, that's probably true.

Or I would say something funny like it's all going wrong, save me, save me, save me and then April Fools, ha ha.

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You know, that is ironic.

They did take off on April Fools, which is not helping the conspiracy theories.

It's really not.

All right.

Would you rather?

OK, I can read you some of these.

We can ping pong.

All right, you go with the first one.

Would you rather be a part of the Apollo 11 crew, the first humans ever to land on the moon with the 1960s technology and no guarantee of coming home, or be on Artemis right now, 2026, with modern tech, better safety, and but knowing history's already been made without you?

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I think I would take now.

I'm not a risk taker, I would take now.

The the 1960s thing, I mean, they probably did the best with what they could, but there was no guarantee guarantees, Not that there's many now, sure, but we're more prepared.

Yeah, we've got better monitoring systems.

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We've had a lot of years to work the math out.

But I mean, if something goes wrong in space, even today, there's there's not a lot of, it's not like you're out to sea somewhere and we can send helicopters.

Like or.

You're so I'd rather gamble with my 2026 technology.

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Absolutely.

Let me ask you one Would you rather spend a week in the cramped Apollo lunar module, which, if you've never seen it, it's really small?

It's big enough for three people.

Barely.

Barely.

And people were smaller in the 1960s than they are now.

I am tall.

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I'm bigger than an average man.

I'm probably bigger than John Glenn and Buzz Aldrin.

And Neil Armstrong?

Yeah, all those guys.

So would you rather spend a week cramped in the lunar module with two other astronauts and a corned beef sandwich someone snuck on board or spent six months on the International Space Station and relative comfort but never get close to the moon?

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I love corned beef and all right again, again, I think the less amount of time and space makes me feel better because I've been on the International Space Station mock up at Nessa backstage pass.

I've known you for a while.

I feel like you should lead with I've been on the International Space Station.

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It's.

Exact replica.

It is not very big.

Yeah, you've also been on a Millennium Falcon exact replica.

Almost lost my lunch.

Yeah.

Well, and then we talked about this on an earlier episode about those two scientists that were twin brothers and one went into space in one state on Earth so they could study their bone density or whatever.

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And the longer you're in space, the more impact it has on your body.

Exactly.

So I'm going short trip.

I'm going to eat a corned beef sandwich.

I'm going to get the heck out of there.

Would you rather watch the Apollo 11 moon landing live on a fuzzy black and white TV in 1969, or watch the first Artemis moon landing live and stunning 4 KHD streamed to your phone knowing that they're the first woman will step on the surface?

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I would the second one, although like to be there in the 60s when everyone was.

Watching.

Well, I think so too.

I mean, your parents, my parents, everyone of that generation still talk about that moment as if it just happened yesterday and they are very excited about us.

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Formative.

Yes.

And I just, I know that the Artemis mission is going to be exciting for those of us that care.

I just don't think it's going to have the global impact that it did in the six because it's like, yeah, we did it.

We should have been doing it more regularly.

Like I'm kind of over it.

But for me, I'm just as excited, I'm sure, as the people were in the 60s.

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But yeah, I think I would.

I'd take the 1960s just to be in the experience.

I would too.

What the very few of those milestones, and here you can point to a lot of them, and often they're tragedies, but that one is a celebration, a global celebration of what mankind was able to do through a lot of money, a lot of science, and a lot of hard work.

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I skipped #3 I'm sorry because mine is so small.

Would you rather have your name etched on a plaque and then left on the moon for all of eternity, or at least until the sun bleaches it and it gets covered dirt, or have a crater on Mars named after you?

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I'll take the crater on Mars named after.

Yeah, what if we never get to Mars and only people who study Mars know that it's named after?

You.

I'm fine with that.

Yeah, would it would be like.

Sarah's Crater.

Sarah's Crater.

The Sarah Crater.

The crater of Sarah.

Oh, that sounds pretty good.

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Yeah, she ate a corned beef sandwich.

We had to name this crater after her.

Yeah.

Yeah, Crater of Sarah.

Well, what would you prefer?

I think I would.

I would take the crater on Mars too.

I think having something named after you is is pretty cool.

Is really cool Until our ancestors.

No, wait, what's the other one?

He doesn't know it either.

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He just did this.

People in posterity, People for all of.

Posterity.

What did he say are?

My future ancestors, Yes.

What are descendants?

My yeah, descendants.

That's got to be it.

That's got to be.

It yeah.

So when our does.

Feel like a word that means behind you, right?

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Descendants.

Yeah, descendants, but I think it's the ones in front.

Of you when future generations get tired of talking about the Fushi crater and they just change it to something else.

Yeah.

It's Foci Crater.

By the Scott Crater scrater.

Scrater.

And finally, would you rather eat rehydrated space food for every meal of a 10 day moon mission, risk it in a pouch, Mac and cheese from a bag, 5 different hot sauces, or eat fresh food but have to prepare it all yourself from scratch in microgravity without dropping crumbs everywhere?

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Oh, man, I don't know.

I had a lot of Mres when I was in the Air Force and you're.

Fine.

Maybe, but they're gross after a while.

They're exactly what you need.

But after watching Project Hail Mary, like if you just do 1 little slip it's everywhere.

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It's everywhere.

So I guess I would be eating out of the power.

I think so too.

I think you'd just be such a nightmare to have to keep up with all of the ingredients and everything you have to do.

And we just cannot at all fathom what microgravity is like.

Yeah, but again, watching my Hail Mary project, I agree.

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But in the book, he goes into quite a bit of detail about the do he's.

He vomits at one point, and it wasn't until that moment that he realized he left all the cabinets open.

Right.

Got every right.

Yeah.

Gross.

All right, we're going to go top ten list and it's going to be the most jaw-dropping facts about the moon missions.

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All right #10 the Apollo guidance computer that took humans to the moon had less processing power.

This is just mind blowing.

I didn't even know.

Than modern USBC chargers.

So I can't even deal with that fact.

It's the thing that our microphones are plugged in with have more intelligence in it.

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Than the Apollo Guidance Computer.

Than the computer guiding it to the moon.

Just insane.

Yeah, it makes it hard to believe.

It makes it hard to believe, but they were doing the math on the papers.

Too.

Yeah, they had a lot of paperback.

Apollo astronauts left retro reflectors on the moon that scientists still bounce lasers off today to measure the moon's exact distance to the millimeter.

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I mean, that's pretty cool.

It goes back to the unbelievable science, and I think this all Hidden Figures is what put into perspective for me the book because it was very sciency.

The book was full of math and I was like, good night, Irene, I had no idea.

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It just never dawns on you the amount of math that gets us into space.

We're on a moving.

We're moving.

We're moving, it's moving.

We're rotating.

And you have to have a good launch window to make the distance as short as possible.

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And if you missed that launch window, don't launch because you don't have enough fuel to do it.

It just.

It is how much smarter humans are than me is just yeah, I mean, it's it's it's astounding.

Not that I'm smart at all.

No, no, no.

But there are people that are super, super smart and they can do these kind of math.

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Like, I wouldn't even think that we're moving, nor would I think that the moon is moving.

Like for me, I'm like, well, let's just shoot the rocket straight.

The moon's right there.

Let's just we'll go.

We'll just shoot it.

Which to that point there, you know, when they saw the initial path, the rocket shoots off.

It's got to orbit the Earth twice before it can go into its eight Figure 8 to go around the moon.

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Earths gravity to help it propel towards the moon and then to come back they're going to use the moons gravity to help it bring back to the earth.

And why is it different gravity?

Like isn't like, I don't know.

Okay, whoa.

Yes, just killing.

My brain, guys, I thought he was going to blow a.

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Gasket over never said the word gravity so many times in a second.

Gravity, which we had already talked about, named Bargatzi's group, not in getting gravity, but I believe gravity's origins are at the center of our planet.

I think so.

Therefore the origins of moon's gravity are this in the center of it, and it has to do with the mass of the object, the mass of Earth versus the mass of moon.

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And that's why our gravity.

'S are to be at mass, you said.

I believe I just stopped listening.

I was.

Like #8. #8 the Saturn 5 rocket was so loud at lift off it could melt concrete 2 miles away, is that right?

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Did I read that right?

Yeah, it was so loud that it can melt concrete.

Yeah, that's what it says.

There's no way that's right.

Maybe it's so hot at take off, I don't know, but could you imagine that something so loud that it was melting things that because sound does is a a wave, you know?

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Anyway, it remains the most powerful rocket ever successfully flown until now, because the Artemis beats it by 15%.

OK.

So is it loud?

It says that sound cannot be so loud that it melts concrete, but sound waves can generate heat.

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The energy required to melt concrete via sound alone is far greater than even what massive rockets like the Saturn 5 would produce.

So rumors that rockets melt concrete are false?

So do your own research, but what probably happened is that the Saturn 5 rocket was so hot and the sound moving at the same time that it melted the concrete.

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That's probably where that rumor shatter.

Cracker damage is what Kristen says she.

Had a crack of damage.

That's like the first cousin to Rice Krispies.

I agree.

That's amazing.

Yeah.

I don't know.

I worked next to a runway for 23 years and some of those planes taken off.

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I still can't hear.

That's right, I you could feel the noise like in the tower of a plane taking off on the runway like it's.

Shakes you.

Yeah, it yes, it's powerful. #7 The Apollo crew survived A catastrophic oxygen tank explosion 200,000 miles from Earth and made it home using the Lunar module as a lifeboat.

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Yeah, crazy.

So if you've seen that movie, they had to, they had to like turn all the power off in the aircraft, the spacecraft, they were freezing.

It was made the environment wet while they were in a trajectory back towards Earth.

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But until they got the oxygen tank fixed, they weren't able to power everything back on.

And it in in famously in that movie, if they missed the window of getting back into Earth's atmosphere, they would have bounced off the our atmosphere.

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And I mean, that would have been just devastating.

So in that movie, they like a joystick, they target Earth, they fire the boosters one more time and they're able to re interp.

But I don't know how much of that is exactly accurate, but I have a feeling it was.

Probably pretty close.

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Yeah, there are 96.

That's number six.

There are 96 bags of astronaut waste currently sitting in on the lunar surface of from the Apollo missions.

There are 96 bags of human waste.

I don't think that means just.

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Yeah, poop, mostly.

Poop, probably.

Genuinely want to study some of its microbiology for research.

So it's pretty cold on the moon, right?

Sure, I would have to say freezing.

Yeah, let's see what because.

There's no atmosphere, right?

So there's 96 bags of on the moon.

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Very, very few microbes can survive freezing.

It would be interesting.

Surface temperatures on the Moon are extreme, ranging from 250°F in the direct sunlight to -208°F at night.

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The lack of the atmosphere means no heat is trapped, causing rapid, drastic shifts.

Some of the permanently shadowed poles plunge to -410°, among the coldest measured in the solar system.

What in the world?

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Talk about space blowing your mind once again?

You would think that being relatively the same distance to the sun as us, yeah, this would not be true.

Well, right, I guess that's because our atmosphere.

Well, we filters our atmosphere, traps heat.

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Yeah, yes.

They don't have an atmosphere, so they're not trapping any heat.

Well, they're getting direct sunlight, so it's 200 and something.

Degrees so it becomes 250°F so.

It's like Del Rio summers my.

Mom was telling me that there one of the ideas is to colonize the moon in these missions, these Artemis missions.

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They are saying that that they're going to put a base on the.

Moon in a 400° temperature swing?

No thank you.

So wonder what the temperature?

Is you've already said on multiple occasions, and maybe not specifically about the moon, but you're not the person to go on this mission.

I think when we talked about going to Mars that you said that you wouldn't go.

27:37

I'd rather go on the Oregon Trail, Yeah, I'd rather be in a covered wagon with normal temperature swings and and an oxen then.

An oxen.

This.

That's incredible.

That's pretty incredible.

That's a lot.

A lot of.

It's a huge temperature swing.

27:53

Yeah, I read or I heard on the Nate, Well, it's now the Public Figures podcast.

The greatest temperature swing that Montana saw was like 100°, but it was like it went from -50 to 50° in one day or whatever.

28:09

Not from zero to.

Not to zero to 100, which is sometimes what it feels like it does here.

Sure.

Well, I've had a temperature swing.

I came back from Qatar.

It was 120° there when I left and I got to Oklahoma City and it was 80° and I was freezing and everyone else was like, oh, this.

28:26

Is lovely, couldn't ask for a better weather. 96 bags of poop.

I just.

Moon dust, called regolith, is razor sharp at the microscopic level and nearly wrecked Apollo's equipment.

It is still one of NASA's biggest unsolved problems for Artemis.

28:43

Razor sharp.

Razor sharp dust.

But I guess there's no winds, so it's not blowing around, yeah.

But you still got to step on it.

Got it.

That.

I mean, that's terrifying.

It's, yeah.

Almost like they don't want us to be up there.

Well luckily it just does feel that way sometimes.

Luckily those suits, they're not having to touch it.

But I wonder what those moon rocks feel like if they've got razor sharp edges on them too.

29:02

If they're not dusty, then they don't.

I just figured the dust made the rock maybe?

Maybe the rocks?

Or the rocks made the dust.

That's probably the better way to say it.

Maybe we don't know.

During Apollo 17, astronaut Harrison Schmidt was the only trained geologist to ever walk on the moon.

29:20

He discovered orange soil that rewrote our understanding of the lunar volcanic history.

What?

There used to be volcanoes on the moon.

Apparently.

Orange soil on the moon there's.

So much to learn about things.

Y'all go to school, stay in.

School study something.

29:36

Take take take astronomy classes.

Do not study theater in college.

Or meet science.

Yeah, you there's so much.

No stuff.

To study, but I will use it in the the roundabout the news story, so we'll get back to that.

The Artemis 2 crew launched on April 1st, 2026.

29:53

April Fool.

'S yes.

It's April's Fool's Day, making it the first crude lunar mission in over 50 years, no?

I mean, I watched it on my cell phone because I I was on my way to church.

But I yeah.

30:09

But the window is the window.

It wasn't like they were like, guys, let's really get after everybody, let's trick them and let's do this on April the 1st, right?

It was.

This is the window.

Or they were.

Well, maybe they had like 5 days to pick from and they're like we're doing April the 1st.

30:24

How would you feel as a as the the astronauts going off on April Fool's?

Does that feel like?

Well, you would be wondering if somebody was.

Pulling, Right.

Exactly.

Like, are we really going?

Is this a joke?

Like, I don't want to have to sit in a capsule for three hours prior to launch and then we don't launch because it's some publicity stunt, Right?

30:43

Yeah, I'd be pretty sad about that.

OK, on Artemis 2, Christina Koch.

Koch.

I have no idea how I was going to say it.

We'll become the first woman to orbit the moon.

And Victor Glover will be the first black person to do so. 2 firsts on the mission and it's pretty cool.

31:02

Awesome.

Yeah, I'm sorry it took us this long.

Well, I mean, we stopped doing it in the 70s.

That's right, we would barely let women vote at that point.

I mean #1 NASA named its moon program after the sun God Apollo, even though Apollo is the sun guy God, not the moon God.

31:19

His twin sister Artemis is the actual moon goddess.

It took NASA 60 years to connect this to mythology.

Yeah, that's pretty cool, though.

I love that they named the the new mission Apollo and Artemis.

That's right.

That's pretty cool.

I love it.

All right, from the news desk.

31:35

And we're going to go right into this one.

Scott, You'll read the first one.

OK, origins, what's in a name?

The real story behind Apollo and Artemis.

And I think we just we kind of touched on this.

Here's a question that should be kept.

That should keep you up at night if you're sending or if you're sending humans to the moon.

31:53

Why on earth would you name the program after the sun got I mean, why would you do it?

Well, welcome to the origin story of Apollo in 1960, a NASA engineer named Abe Silverstein.

I'm sure I crushed that one.

Shell's brother.

32:09

That's yeah.

Shelley's brother was flipping through the mythology book at home, and then he came across the name Apollo, the Greek God of the Sun, Music, prophecy and archery.

Which I mean, that's, that's a pretty good.

He had a great resume.

32:24

Pretty good range reading or sorry reading, Riding his golden chariot across the sky and through it marched the grand administration of what NASA was trying to do, like riding the golden rocket or that golden chariot.

I was naming the spacecraft like I was naming my baby, Silverstein later said.

32:42

I mean, that's pretty cute.

It's pretty cute.

Whether it was mythologically correct or nonsense, depending on who you ask, it's still something that this classic professor took this ancient Greek word and thought twice before naming the lunar mission after the moon goddess.

33:01

Younger brother, that's pretty cool.

I love this story and I did always wonder what the origin of of the Apollo program name was.

And then I had read in a book, it was a fictional book.

Was it called Olympus, Texas and the two twins and it were named Artie and Apollo or whatever.

33:21

So I I did know that they were twins.

When Ready Player won, the primary female character's name is Artemis.

So let's let's talk about Apollo.

In Greek mythology, he is one of the 12 Olympic gods.

He's the son of Zeus and.

The Titanus Lido.

Titanus Lido and the twin brother of Artemis.

33:40

He's associated with the sun and light, but he also reason, music, poetry, prophecy, and healing.

He's the most famous.

His most famous shrine is the Oracle of Delphi.

Which is one of those weird things like the they would take women to this thing and they think that there was like a natural gas leak there that was causing them to have like seizures that they would like give prophecy and stuff.

34:05

Here at the Oracle of Delphi.

It's very fascinating Greek history, but people would travel from across the ancient world to hear prophecies from the Oracle, from Apollo.

He is one of the most complex and layered figures in mythology, and he probably is why they named this whole program after him, because it's a complicated program.

34:26

He's a complicated guy.

There we go.

Why don't you talk about Artemis?

OK, there then comes Artemis, and the name choice this time actually makes mythological sense.

When NASA announced its return to the moon program in 2019, then NASA Administrator Jim Bridenstine.

34:42

Both Steens.

And so many Steens explained it simply.

It turns out that Apollo had a twin sister, Artemis.

She to be the goddess of the moon.

In Greek mythology, Artemis is the goddess of the moon, the wilderness, and the hunt.

She's a guardian, a protector, and a figure of transition.

35:00

And critically, she's the actual deity associated with the lunar surface that Apollo was always trying to reach.

As Bridenstine noted, it was also a deliberate signal the Artemis program would carry the first woman to the moon. 50 years after Apollo, NASA finally let the moon goddess have her program.

35:18

That's pretty cool.

That's great.

That's that's good.

But I also I find it suiting.

Not like they planned to name it Apollo back in the 60s, just so later we'd name an Artemis.

But it really does work well together, Those, those two things.

Yeah.

It's perfect, Yeah.

35:33

More space news coming up.

Humanity goes back to the moon, and it launched on April Fool's Day.

What a silly choice.

NASA's Artemis 2 mission lifted off from Kennedy Space Center, sending 4 humans toward the moon for the first time since Apollo 17 in 1972.

35:50

Where were you during that?

1972 same place you were.

Not here yet.

Commander Reed Wiseman, pilot Victor Glover, mission specialist Christina Koch and Canadian Space Agency astronaut Jeremy Hansen are currently making their way around the moon and back in a planned 10 day mission.

36:09

When Koch circles the moon, she'll become the first woman in history to do so.

When Glover does, he will be the first black person.

Well when the other guy does, it'll be the first Canadian to do.

What are you talking about?

He took He put Maple syrup in his box.

I'm.

Sure he did.

This just isn't a return to the moon, it's a rewriting of who gets to be part of that story.

36:29

The crew was confirmed to be secure and in great spirits following the launch Despite, and we are not making this up, a broken toilet and a temporary communication glitch early in the mission.

Yeah, and when they just did a live stream too, and they all seemed like they were in a really good mood and they it.

36:44

That's pretty cool.

I mean.

They're living their dreams.

Man, I mean, they that we have the opportunity and the technology to do things like live stream with astronauts.

That's that's amazing.

I mean, we've been doing that since the 60s, though.

I mean, they did.

We have.

They did.

They live streamed all those missions.

That's.

How we not in high def.

37:00

That's how Tom No, it wasn't in high def.

That's how Tom Hanks was able to get everything fixed on Apollo 13.

But he was, that was.

More live.

Stream radios.

This is like cell phone cameras.

Anyway, we'll talk about that.

Later, is the science the same?

It's got to be.

Yeah, radio waves regardless.

37:17

All right, you up with the next.

Who knows?

All right, space also space business.

The Moon is now open for business private properties.

Private.

Companies are racing to the lunar surface.

I just, I can't even, I can't believe this.

It's just not just the government agencies heading moon word anymore.

37:35

The new era of commercial lunar exploration is underway, with private companies landing spacecraft on the moon as part of NASA's Commercial Lunar Payload Service program.

Easy for everyone to say.

You did great.

So this, this program has made history as the first Oh, I'm sorry, it's called.

37:55

Intuitive.

Machines has made history as the first private company to soft land a spacecraft on the moon touching down near the South Pole, which I would assume is at the bottom of the moon, right?

I have.

I don't know anything anymore.

Well, they call it the hottest real estate in the solar system.

38:14

But it's actually the coldest.

But it's probably, yeah, probably the coldest.

Or is it?

-200 No, they said that the coldest temperatures recorded are at the poles of the moon.

We just said all.

Of that, I promise you I was probably listening.

So it's the hottest real estate believed to be the harbor of water ice, in permanently shadowed.

38:35

So they believe that that area is able to harbor water in ice, not.

That there is already water there.

They're thinking that they could.

No, they believe that that area harbors water as ice.

They think there's ice on the moon.

They think there's ice at the poles of the moon.

38:51

I really don't know anything about the moon.

I've.

Yeah, so the the reason this is so exciting is that water ice could be converted into drinking water, oxygen and maybe even rocket fuel for deep space missions.

So SpaceX Starship is selected as the Artemis Human landing system, the line between the government, space exploration and the commercial enterprises.

39:13

And it's very blurry.

The space race in the 20 twenties isn't between nations.

It's between Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos and Amazon and then maybe a little bit of the Chinese.

Watch out for those Razor rocks guys.

I hear they're.

Just they're bad, terrible.

39:29

Also, I mean, it's just amazing that they think that there's water up there and that they're they can use it for all those different things.

Like it's just.

Water is life, man.

That's.

Right.

Water is life.

Which in the Hail Mary project, I don't think this is a spoiler alert.

Ryan Gosling's character I believe that life could exist.

39:47

There was life forms that could exist without water which that that true.

It's not been proven right, but my children keep debating me on this topic.

Hudson is constantly like.

I also believe that there could be life forms without water and I'm like, but there aren't and we haven't found them and they don't exist.

40:04

He's like.

But I believe they could.

They could be out there and I'm like, well, not even in the Hail Mary project did they disprove that.

And I thought.

That the main character who believed it was proven wrong.

Exactly.

I thought was I was reading the book, I thought Rocky was going to be the answer to his and then he was going to have to make a decision about do I go back and prove to everybody I was right or or do I have to die on this mission or whatever.

40:28

But that never was touched on again.

I was like this was a great like this could have been a great thread.

Character growth.

Yeah, but anyways, it was it was great nonetheless.

All right, final news story.

Brisket, hot sauce and 58 tortillas.

What the Artemis 2 crew is eating on their way to the moon.

40:46

Sounds delicious.

I had. 58 tortillas today, just before launch, NASA dropped one of the more unexpected viral moments of the space age.

They posted the full food menu for Artemis 2 on social media.

I saw this on my Facebook page.

The Internet immediately lost its mind.

41:02

They're eating better in space than on Earth, wrote one commenter.

Another highlighted the creamy spinach with nutmeg and coconut milk as sounding suspiciously fancy for zero gravity.

Sounds gross.

They're not wrong.

The Artemis 2 menu runs 189 unique items.

41:18

There's barbecued beef brisket, vegetable quiche, broccoli O gratan, macaroni and cheese, mango, Peach smoothies, cous cous with nuts.

I think it would be hard to eat eat couscous in zero gravity.

Just through a straw.

Just throw them up and.

I mean, I wonder what like Neil Armstrong would think about this menu.

41:36

He'd be pissed.

Yeah, I think so.

Tropical fruit salad and a dessert menu that includes cookies.

Chocolate cobbler, which I've never had.

Pudding, Candy coated almonds.

There are five different hot sauces.

And there is Maple syrup, a nod to Canadian astronaut Jeremy Hansen.

41:53

And there are precisely 58 tortillas.

Well, probably not anymore.

They'll probably eat.

What kind of hot sauces do you think they have?

I mean Tabasco.

Tabasco.

I was thinking that too.

Tabasco.

Cholula.

There was, there was one called like something Pete.

Oh yeah.

42:09

Texas, Pete's Texas Pete.

Yeah.

On every deployment we went on, they wouldn't have Tabasco, but they'd.

Have Texas, Texas Pete's.

I like Crystal hot sauce, which is a Louisiana one too.

Yeah, that's my favorite.

It's a very Tabasco like.

Very Tabasco like, but I like it better than Tabasco.

Why tortillas and not bread?

42:25

Because crumbs in microgravity don't fall, they float, and they can damage your spacecraft equipment or injure the crew.

The tortilla has been a staple of space cuisine for decades, specifically because it doesn't crumble.

Go tortillas.

42:40

I mean, some of them do it, so they must be doing flour tortillas.

Yeah, it must be.

The menu has no sandwiches for the same reason.

Every food item on board is either ready to eat, rehydratable, Thermo stabilized, or irradiated for shelf stability.

I mean, I literally just told Jack the other day, like maybe Tuesday this week that I thought of Taco was a perfect food.

43:02

It is a perfect.

Because it has everything in it and it's in that perfect.

They hold it.

Yeah.

I had friends that they were, they were family of kids.

They're like all six foot 5-6, foot 7, the daughters even over 6 foot tall.

The mom would just put tortillas on the table to use as napkins.

43:19

They'd wipe their mouth and eat the tortillas afterwards.

That's funny.

It was.

It was great.

So who actually designs all of this?

You ask that ask me, Scott.

Okay, who actually signs all this?

I asked.

That would be the team at NASA Space Food Systems Laboratory at Johnson Space Center in Houston and a partner facility at Texas A&M Unit.

43:40

I mean this.

Is what our tax dollars should be going to.

So that's so cool.

So this space is not a kitchen.

It's a full food science operation staffed by food scientists, nutritionists, engineers, and packaging specialists who treat every meal like it's a mission critical system.

43:58

They run a test kitchen equipment with freeze dryers, steam kettles, industrial ovens, and even vacuum sealers.

They analyze each astronauts nutritional needs and factor in calorie burn, hydration, bone density, and even the fact that your taste buds change in micro gravity due to fluid shifts in your body, which is part of the reason they put 5 hot sauces on board.

44:20

About 8 months before launch, the crew visits the lab for formal taste testing sessions, rating each food for flavor, texture, appearance and smell.

Five months before the flight, the menus are locked in.

Two to three days of food per astronaut are then packet together in a single container, giving the crew some flexibility mid mission.

44:40

NASA has projected the Artemis 2 crew will drink approximately 43 cups of coffee during the 10 day trip.

For the record, the space food scientists describe their work not as cooking but as engineering meals.

Yeah, that's exactly what it sounds like too.

Also only 43 cups of coffee for four people.

44:58

It seems reasonable, Scott.

I drink 2A day, so 10 days.

I need 20.

Never mind.

Yeah.

Yeah, they're only getting 1 cup a day I guess.

Yeah.

I guess because it's a diuretic they don't want to pee in all their liquids out I.

Guess when I'm sure part of the engineering of this food and designing it is how each food is affecting someones stomach when they eat it.

45:17

Well, food safety is paramount on these missions.

And interestingly, I do know this because I did study food science at Texas A&M University.

But anyone who studies food science knows that our modern day food safety program, which is called the Hassop Program, Hazard Analysis Critical Control Point Program, it's used in restaurants, food processing facilities worldwide, was developed for NASA at Texas A&M University.

45:44

And it is the gold standard because we cannot have these folks develop food borne illness in space, not only for the vomiting and the diarrhea problem, but because they can't be out of the mission and so a safe food supply.

There's only four of them.

They have to work every day.

Like, you can't.

Yeah, You can't take a sick day in space.

46:01

Nope.

That's so cool.

So they're not eating beans out of a can?

Probably.

Maybe not.

Because not safe.

It's not that.

It's plenty safe.

Yeah, maybe because it's gone through a hazard program.

Maybe.

Maybe.

Now it wouldn't be safe to have a pop, a top, a lid floating around.

46:16

It might cut your oxygen.

I think it's cool though, that there that tortillas is like the thing, like I love it.

That's a very Texas thing.

All right guys, now to everyone's favorite part of the episode, the hullabaloo debate.

I mean, honestly, people have been asking us to debate this thing since we started our podcast, so.

46:36

And the reason is because I until I met Scott.

It's just hard for me to believe.

I live in an optimistic bubble.

I had never heard of people not believing that we landed on the moon in 1969.

Didn't know people didn't believe.

46:53

Until I met Sarah, I wasn't sure that I had ever met someone who actually believed it.

That was in my generation of people.

So here we are today.

The hullabaloo debate topic is Did humans actually land on the Moon?

Scott.

I say no, I you want me to say more than no, Actually, I got a text message this morning from a family member.

47:13

Actually, Uncle BJ, one of our primary listeners asked me if Artemis makes it back to the moon, what's my theory on the original moon landing?

Are they going to stage that or are they going to what are they going to do?

And I said to him, I don't know how they're going to handle it.

47:30

I hope that I'm wrong.

I really do want to be wrong.

I want to believe that we landed on the moon.

I just, I just don't.

And really the primary reason, and I'm I'm wondering how Artemis is dealing with it, is the Van Allen radiation belt that exists between Earth and the moon.

47:48

Like the technology that we had in the 60s, we would have just been eaten alive.

The radiation would have just melted us.

Also, I think that our government had too much at stake to not get to the moon.

And so we were going to do whatever we needed to do to show the world that we had made it, whether we made it or not.

48:06

And it just I don't know the technology in that USBC Dr. compared to the technology that we would require to get to the moon.

I know we were doing the math.

I just a.

Lot of things had to go really right.

A lot of things had to happen exactly a certain way to get us there.

48:23

And we say that we went there multiple times.

And then when I watch those videos and I, I've never seen the original film, so I don't no for a fact.

I only see what's on the Internet.

But it just looks so fake.

So fake.

Yeah, in 2001, A Space Odyssey had just come out a few years prior, and it looks just like that.

48:44

Yeah, so they nailed it.

The movie nailed.

It nailed it well, and the the, you know, the story is that Stanley Kubrick helped the guy who directed 2001 A Space Odyssey helped NASA stage it.

So that's probably why I look so similar.

I, I think the the hard thing for me to believe, one I like we've said before, I'm an optimist and I take a little.

49:07

You're a little naive in that kind of stuff.

Too 100% I don't believe any conspiracy theories.

I I very clearly trust everyone's what they tell me about.

Everything.

Why would they lie?

Yeah.

But I think the number of people that worked on Apollo numbers 400,000 people, and for that many people to be in on this ruse and it not have broken is incredible.

49:29

I don't think that all of those people know.

Number one, Number two, Russia was on.

Well, they beat us to space.

They were on our heels.

They even put a dog in space before us.

They did.

I mean, doggone it, they got a dog in space before we did.

But I feel like if we didn't do it, they would have been the first ones to be like, because we were still in the Cold War, they were not our friends.

49:52

They had no reason to defend us in this endeavour.

And if we didn't do it, I think they would have made sure and told everybody.

I think they were tracking it.

And if it were faked, they would have let the world know immediately.

50:07

But don't you think that we were in such a space race that if it was possible that Russia too would have gone like immediately afterwards and like taking the American flag out and throwing it out into space and film that whole thing and stuck?

I don't think they could afford to the the one, the one visual that I keep seeing it just in the last few years shows like it's like a graph and it shows the number of aircraft in the United States.

50:33

Inventory.

Inventory compared to every other country.

Staggering how far behind everybody is.

We forget how wealthy a nation we are.

And meanwhile Russia was letting everybody starve to death trying to chase us in a space, right.

50:51

Present day dollars Apollo mission cost $257 billion.

And they they had people lined up for bread that nobody was getting bread.

And then, you know, everybody's only driving black cars because they couldn't afford other colors of paint.

And so I just don't think any Russia being our number one.

51:08

So you think they would have had a spy involved somewhere?

They would have.

Well, they could track the movement, I'm sure.

I mean, they had been in space, they had some technology.

They were tracking these missions.

If we were failing at it, then they would have known it.

I also think that the way those missions where did the rocket go?

51:26

So the rocket goes into space and then it just circled the moon and came back.

No, it just keeps going right there's.

No, those people came back.

Yeah.

Oh, you're saying they never got?

On the people weren't on the rocket.

Now that's not fair to buzz and kneel and everything they accomplished.

51:42

Once again, I just don't know who benefits from the lie.

America did.

A lot of people did.

We were failing in so many other areas.

We needed to.

We needed the win.

We didn't fail, we just won back-to-back world wars.

Yeah, 20 years before.

51:58

Yeah, it's just not that long now.

You know, look back 20 years, Scott.

We both act like we're just out of high school all the time.

Yeah, that's true. 20 years ain't very far.

No, it is not.

I tried to I, I told Hudson yesterday's CrossFit workout that I was sprinting A3, a 300, and then doing 10 push ups.

52:16

He's like, you can Sprint 300 yards.

Like I can still Sprint 300 yards. 8 times your jerk.

And it was a rough, it was a rough workout, but we did.

It, but we did it, yeah, under the time cap.

Under the time cap.

So I just, I think that we had too much to gain from the lie.

52:33

And like I've said before, I really want to be wrong.

I, I do, I want to think that we made it to the moon.

I just, there's too much evidence stacked against it and there's too much for the US government to have benefited from for me to believe it.

But I want Artemis to go.

52:49

I do.

I want to get to the moon.

I want to I want them to go and take pictures of the the landing sites and.

And will be.

That be what it takes.

For me to believe it, Yeah, yeah, maybe the But also, if they faked it in 1969, they could fake it now too.

53:04

They could just go fake.

And that's my problem with you conspiracy theorists, is it's like no amount of information ever changes the mind of a person who cannot believe.

And I think that's what makes this conversation so hard.

But I'm willing I'm.

I know and I appreciate that about you.

53:21

I'm willing to to tap on.

Allegedly he's willing to have his mind change.

We'll see y'all.

I just am like well where did the so they then what about the those lunar modules that are the the return modules that drop in the ocean?

Where did those come from?

AB52.

Oh God he's in deep y'all.

53:41

Look, I just I.

Where did Buzz hide all week?

Where did Neil hide all week?

In New Mexico.

How'd they get there?

They were walking.

They were seen walking on to those rockets and then they.

Put them in a car.

They.

Dropped.

They dropped them below the stage like a David Copperfield magic show.

53:56

Yes.

And then they tunneled.

They were in a tunnel and they went all the way to New Mexico from Cape Canaveral.

And they drove them to New Mexico.

Throw them in the back.

There's just so many do.

Do I find space travel so much more believable than this series of events never being leaked?

54:13

No, no way.

I I want to be wrong, but I'm going to have to have evidence to.

So there have been lunar orbiters from India and Japan that have circumnavigated the moon and taken photos from those landing sites.

54:28

And you can see equipment, foot pads and Rover trucks.

Those are fake, too.

Yeah.

The what else you got?

The only thing I can say is I do find it interesting that we've taken a 50 year hiatus.

Right.

You didn't even use that argument.

Well, I mean, if it's the obvious one, because it's not just, not just us like China's not gone back up, Japan's not gone.

54:49

Like I, I really do think that if we were able to go in the 1960s, China could go now, Japan could go now.

Well.

They could go now.

And they would.

But why Has anyone said why they're not?

I don't know, but I would.

I would get there and I would spray paint my name on the flag that's up there and be like, ha ha, come back and get it.

55:15

Yeah.

I think this all goes back to it is it is an outrageous technical problem.

It costs an extraordinary amount of money and we are by and large the richest country in the world.

And I think ethically, some of those countries haven't done it because they can't afford to.

55:33

Maybe, but they have the technology.

Again, we kind of decimated Japan for a while.

They had a lot of other things to get right first, and China's really only sprung into being a world superpower in the last 20 years.

55:48

Yeah.

Hey, I have another conspiracy about China that I got to share with you, not on the podcast, so we'll talk about it later.

I love it.

Yeah, so, folks, here it is.

Did we go to the moon in 1969?

Did we not?

You've heard Scott's thoughts.

You've heard Sarah's hot.

56:04

Amazing thoughts.

But the, the truth is, is that whether we went in 1969 and then stopped going in 1972, we're not.

We're in space right now and we're going to go around the moon and come back.

I mean, that's pretty cool.

The Artemis, the four Artemis astronauts are going to be farther away from Earth than any other human has ever been.

56:25

That's this is incredible.

That's it is incredible.

It's amazing.

Nerd alert.

Yeah.

Well, we, as always, love hearing from you guys.

We hope you enjoyed this episode of Tomfoolery and Hullabaloo TuneIn next time.

Who knows?

What we're talking about be anything could be more conspiracy theories.

56:43

I mean, that was that was eye opening.

I never thought that we were going to talk about this, so I'm just glad that we did.

I'm glad that we got it.

In well, I'm glad we're heading back to the moon too.

I can't wait for our kids to get to experience this because again, we grew up in the desert of space exploration and we're getting to see it through our kids eyes were.

57:00

You born after the Challenger explosion.

I was born in 84, I think it was 86 when Challenger exploded.

Yeah.

And then I would think I was in high school or middle school when Columbia exploded over Texas, right?

So crazy.

So that was that's what we had.

Disaster.

I didn't want anything to do with that.

57:16

Being an astronaut seems safer in the 60s.

I like that you said that we're going back to the moon.

I let's just say that we're going to the moon.

We're going to the moon.

Well, we'll see you guys next time on Tomfoolery.

And hullabaloo.